Summary by gpt.icon(modified by nishio.icon)

  • An approach to optimize the combination of good and bad parts with real numbers.
  • This approach is useful for image recognition and Go phase evaluation.
  • In these areas, it is easier to express preferences than to describe procedures.
  • There is also a “combination of parts that return a boolean value” approach, which is currently used as type inference in programming languages.
  • The advantage of this approach is that the behavior of the parts can be clearly defined and that it is suitable for solving certain kinds of problems.

gpt.iconWhat would you like to see happen in this conversation? nishio.iconI would like to come up with a story to write a manuscript. Instead of expressing logic by combining parts that return true/false values, I would like to describe a computational approach that optimizes the desirability of parts by expressing them in terms of real values. gpt.iconIn what applications or areas do you intend to use the “computational approach to optimize the real-valued representation of part desirability”? What applications or areas do you intend to use this approach and what benefits do you hope to gain from it? nishio.iconAs for neural net systems, first we achieved remarkable results in the field of image recognition, then we appointed a professional chess player in reinforcement learning, and at this moment, the application with a huge language model is a hot topic. gpt.iconCan you be more specific about how your “computational approach to optimizing the real-valued representation of component desirability” could be used in these areas? What problems do you expect to solve and what benefits do you expect to gain in each of these areas? nishio.iconThe approach of creating a complex structure by combining reliably working parts, for example, is to try to guarantee the correctness of the parts by unit testing. Theoretically, complex objects will work correctly if parts that work correctly are combined correctly. In practice, however, human error increases with complexity. Another problem was the need for humans to understand and be able to verbalize what they were trying to create. This was a major hurdle. gpt.iconI see. So, what advantages do you think “a computational approach to optimize the desirability of components by expressing them in terms of real values” brings to the optimization of component combinations? And in what areas do you expect it to be applied? nishio.iconThe approach requires that “favorability” be verbalized. However, in many areas, it was easier to verbalize “favoritism” than to verbalize “procedure. gpt.iconI see that in the “computational approach to optimize the desirability of a part by expressing it in terms of real values,” it is easier to verbalize the desirability of a part than it is to describe a procedure. Do you have any thoughts on where this approach might be useful, or what specific applications it might have? nishio.iconEspecially image analysis. The human approach to component creation has been a heady one. gpt.iconI see that “a computational approach to optimize the desirability of a part by expressing it in terms of real values” is effective in image analysis. What do you think are the specific advantages of this approach in image analysis? Also, what kind of progress do you expect to see in image analysis using this approach in the future? nishio.iconLater came the application by expressing the goodness or badness of a Go game in terms of victory or defeat at the end of the game. gpt.iconYou say that the “computational approach to optimize the desirability of parts by expressing them in terms of real values” is effective in the Go game. What do you think are the advantages of this approach in evaluating Go games? Also, what kind of progress do you expect in the evaluation of Go games using this approach in the future? nishio.iconNext is the giant language model, I’m not sure if GPT3 was Masked LM, so I need to check. That should be enough for this stream. Another stream is quantum annealing. gpt.iconUnderstood. So, how do you think “a computational approach to optimize the real-valued representation of the desirability of components” will be applied in the field of quantum annealing? What problems do you expect it to solve and what benefits do you expect it to bring? nishio.iconLet’s leave it at that and talk about another flow. There is a stream where goodness is defined by a combination of components that return true or false. Prolog in the old days, then SAT, and now it has seeped into programming languages as the backbone of type inference. gpt.iconI see that there is a flow defined by a combination of components that return true/false. What do you think are the advantages behind this approach becoming ingrained in programming languages? Also, do you have any thoughts on problems or applications that could be solved by this approach? nishio.iconSummarize in bullet-point style what I said in this chat. gpt.iconSure! Here’s a summary of what we discussed in bullet points:

  • The “parts preferredness” approach to optimization involves expressing the goodness of parts as real numbers and optimizing their combinations.
  • This approach has been effective in image recognition and the evaluation of Go positions.
  • In these fields, it is easier to express preferredness than to describe a procedure.
  • There is also an approach that defines flow using parts that return true or false, which is now used in programming languages as type inference.
  • The benefits of this approach include a clear definition of part behavior and suitability for solving certain types of problems. nishio.iconIn Japanese. gpt.iconYes, to summarize.
  • The “part desirability” approach optimizes the goodness of a part by expressing it in terms of real values, and is useful for image analysis and Go phase evaluation.
  • In these areas, it is easier to verbalize “desirability” than procedures and to optimize the combination of parts.
  • The “combination of parts that return a boolean value” approach is used in programming languages to clearly define the behavior of parts.
  • The advantages of this approach include a clear definition of the behavior of the parts and their suitability for solving specific problems. nishio.iconPut it all in a one-line title. gpt.iconThe “component selection approach to optimization” is useful for image analysis and Go phase evaluation, and is also used in programming languages to clearly define component behavior and to solve specific problems.

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